The Plain Reading of Hell's Timeline
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth.” Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. It does not say in the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth and hell. Why would God leave out something as important as hell if Jesus came to preach people out of hell or off of their trajectory towards hell?
"In the beginning" is a specific set of circumstances. Before the beginning there was nothing; but there wasn't 'no one.' There was God: one God in three persons, co-eternal, coexistent, co-equal. Everything that came into existence came into existence because of God; and yet we hear that hell is the destination of those people who do not believe in Jesus Christ the Messiah, the Son of God. Matthew chapter 7 says 'depart from me, you wicked into Everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.' This must mean that hell was prepared after the Earth and Heaven were created.
It does not mean that hell was not prepared; it does not mean that hell does not exist; it does not mean that humans hallucinated hell or that the church was just “pushing propaganda.” It means that hell is a place created after the heaven and the Earth. Indeed the hell we are talking about is the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:14) that burns with brimstone.
This place is shown in Revelation to be in existence before the millennial Kingdom starts; it is shown to be in existence after the final rebellion, but before the Great White Throne judgment. It appears to be in another dimension or in a pocket dimension apart from this current universe because Revelation says that "the old Heaven and the old Earth fled away and no place was found for them," yet the Lake of Fire persists. So how do Bible preachers, pastors, teachers and scholars not recognize this and some of us who have not yet read the entire Bible recognize this? Or how do the ones that do, reconcile this?
"Hell is not a real place" has been declared to me just this year in January. I get that the idea of hell is uncomfortable, disturbing, and puts a lien on much of human cerebral real estate. We can't reconcile eternity in punishment with 60, 80 or even 100 years in sin or error.
Sadly, this denies the holiness of God and misunderstands that sin against an infinite God requires an infinite payment. Revelation declares "let him that is unclean be unclean still; let him that is holy be holy still."
The final state of a man at death is his state forever after, so the unlucky person to have even one sin to his charge is enough to keep an everlasting distance between the sinner and God. Further, do people convert in TLoF? I propose "no." Everyone that ends up in hell believes there is a God and His name is Jesus; but not everyone converts or repents. Even if your first reaction is "oh $h!t!" That's a sin, and since the age of Grace and the window of forgiveness has been closed, every sin will be credited to the sinner's account. In fact, "and their worm dieth not" has been proposed by NT scholars to mean that the soul, bereft of all goodness (which is ultimately a part of God), becomes a grotesque distortion of what it was on earth. This is the worm that scholars believe Jesus talked of, and as the person blasphemes and curses, the soul degenerates even further. So, the permanence and the everlasting nature of hell (the Lake of Fire) facilitates the new sins that the soul sins every minute. Unfortunate but true, the just nature of God is borne out by the mystery of the everlasting fire.
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth.” Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. It does not say in the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth and hell. Why would God leave out something as important as hell if Jesus came to preach people out of hell or off of their trajectory towards hell?
"In the beginning" is a specific set of circumstances. Before the beginning there was nothing; but there wasn't 'no one.' There was God: one God in three persons, co-eternal, coexistent, co-equal. Everything that came into existence came into existence because of God; and yet we hear that hell is the destination of those people who do not believe in Jesus Christ the Messiah, the Son of God. Matthew chapter 7 says 'depart from me, you wicked into Everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.' This must mean that hell was prepared after the Earth and Heaven were created.
It does not mean that hell was not prepared; it does not mean that hell does not exist; it does not mean that humans hallucinated hell or that the church was just “pushing propaganda.” It means that hell is a place created after the heaven and the Earth. Indeed the hell we are talking about is the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:14) that burns with brimstone.
This place is shown in Revelation to be in existence before the millennial Kingdom starts; it is shown to be in existence after the final rebellion, but before the Great White Throne judgment. It appears to be in another dimension or in a pocket dimension apart from this current universe because Revelation says that "the old Heaven and the old Earth fled away and no place was found for them," yet the Lake of Fire persists. So how do Bible preachers, pastors, teachers and scholars not recognize this and some of us who have not yet read the entire Bible recognize this? Or how do the ones that do, reconcile this?
"Hell is not a real place" has been declared to me just this year in January. I get that the idea of hell is uncomfortable, disturbing, and puts a lien on much of human cerebral real estate. We can't reconcile eternity in punishment with 60, 80 or even 100 years in sin or error.
Sadly, this denies the holiness of God and misunderstands that sin against an infinite God requires an infinite payment. Revelation declares "let him that is unclean be unclean still; let him that is holy be holy still."
The final state of a man at death is his state forever after, so the unlucky person to have even one sin to his charge is enough to keep an everlasting distance between the sinner and God. Further, do people convert in TLoF? I propose "no." Everyone that ends up in hell believes there is a God and His name is Jesus; but not everyone converts or repents. Even if your first reaction is "oh $h!t!" That's a sin, and since the age of Grace and the window of forgiveness has been closed, every sin will be credited to the sinner's account. In fact, "and their worm dieth not" has been proposed by NT scholars to mean that the soul, bereft of all goodness (which is ultimately a part of God), becomes a grotesque distortion of what it was on earth. This is the worm that scholars believe Jesus talked of, and as the person blasphemes and curses, the soul degenerates even further. So, the permanence and the everlasting nature of hell (the Lake of Fire) facilitates the new sins that the soul sins every minute. Unfortunate but true, the just nature of God is borne out by the mystery of the everlasting fire.
The Plain Reading of Hell's Timeline
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth.” Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. It does not say in the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth and hell. Why would God leave out something as important as hell if Jesus came to preach people out of hell or off of their trajectory towards hell?
"In the beginning" is a specific set of circumstances. Before the beginning there was nothing; but there wasn't 'no one.' There was God: one God in three persons, co-eternal, coexistent, co-equal. Everything that came into existence came into existence because of God; and yet we hear that hell is the destination of those people who do not believe in Jesus Christ the Messiah, the Son of God. Matthew chapter 7 says 'depart from me, you wicked into Everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.' This must mean that hell was prepared after the Earth and Heaven were created.
It does not mean that hell was not prepared; it does not mean that hell does not exist; it does not mean that humans hallucinated hell or that the church was just “pushing propaganda.” It means that hell is a place created after the heaven and the Earth. Indeed the hell we are talking about is the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:14) that burns with brimstone.
This place is shown in Revelation to be in existence before the millennial Kingdom starts; it is shown to be in existence after the final rebellion, but before the Great White Throne judgment. It appears to be in another dimension or in a pocket dimension apart from this current universe because Revelation says that "the old Heaven and the old Earth fled away and no place was found for them," yet the Lake of Fire persists. So how do Bible preachers, pastors, teachers and scholars not recognize this and some of us who have not yet read the entire Bible recognize this? Or how do the ones that do, reconcile this?
"Hell is not a real place" has been declared to me just this year in January. I get that the idea of hell is uncomfortable, disturbing, and puts a lien on much of human cerebral real estate. We can't reconcile eternity in punishment with 60, 80 or even 100 years in sin or error.
Sadly, this denies the holiness of God and misunderstands that sin against an infinite God requires an infinite payment. Revelation declares "let him that is unclean be unclean still; let him that is holy be holy still."
The final state of a man at death is his state forever after, so the unlucky person to have even one sin to his charge is enough to keep an everlasting distance between the sinner and God. Further, do people convert in TLoF? I propose "no." Everyone that ends up in hell believes there is a God and His name is Jesus; but not everyone converts or repents. Even if your first reaction is "oh $h!t!" That's a sin, and since the age of Grace and the window of forgiveness has been closed, every sin will be credited to the sinner's account. In fact, "and their worm dieth not" has been proposed by NT scholars to mean that the soul, bereft of all goodness (which is ultimately a part of God), becomes a grotesque distortion of what it was on earth. This is the worm that scholars believe Jesus talked of, and as the person blasphemes and curses, the soul degenerates even further. So, the permanence and the everlasting nature of hell (the Lake of Fire) facilitates the new sins that the soul sins every minute. Unfortunate but true, the just nature of God is borne out by the mystery of the everlasting fire.